For example, we now have an existence things that can have a lack of Light, or once have light but now no longer do. It was claimed in developer interview that the dragon of Ash Lake in-game did not feel pain when his tail was cut off because he is pseudo-mineral life, I can find this source at a later time, but this is what I base my interpretation of the everlasting dragons on. Gwyn fashions lightning magic out of natural inspiration from the mushrooms innate lightning (see Yellow Pine Resin dropping from mushroom men and its text in Dks3). Regarding Hollows in the Age of Grey: before the First Flame, they were probably wandering aimlessly and mindlessly, but keep in mind that there probably were years between the retrieval of souls and Gwyn's War on Dragons: Gwyn and the other Lords had to unite and equip an untold number of people before they could wage war, and we don't know how long this war lasted. Rising. About Community. The fact that something so simple can affect things significantly I think shows what a layered and interesting introduction to a universe it is. Unlucky cursed ones, often put in asylums, for one reason or another they could not be satiated by Nito's global ritual. With the birth of the First Flame - the Advent of Fire - the Lords challenged the Dragons for dominion of the world. As such he was a part of blood-life's earliest civilization, a being that watched over burial rites and customs. Short version, lazy presentation: Seath is a mutant of the Everlasting Dragons made of flesh. Also, I believe the smaller ones breed faster and die faster. The Dark Soul, being alive, has want. Any questions feel free to ask, any sources needed Same thing. There are no posts in this subreddit. Thanks! By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. The blood lifeforms could perish normally. This is why the First Flame brought Disparity in the world: "before", time didn't flow, so things couldn't evolve or change. One important thing that has always been there but which has been spelled out by the Repair sorcery in DS3 is that Light is Time. The Deep is a concept inDark Souls III. In a sense, this has proliferated its continuing appeal and analysis. Gi… As far as I am aware, the nature of his treachery is not elaborated upon. Really neat fan theory! The untended graves isn't a "age of dark" thing. Its disunion from its compliment, the Dark Soul, essentially allowed the long-lasting potential of the its proper form to be circumvented and "burnt-up" in some capacity. In that case, wouldn't his body be mortal/flesh and therefore not like the mineral lifeform you described? The ancestor claimed the Dark Soul and waited for Fire to subside. Clinging to his Age of Fire, and in dire fear of humans, and the Dark Lord who would one day be born amongst them. Gwyn leads the gods and men up an archtree to the outer crust of the world. The Age of Ancients: The Dark Soul and the First Men Among the remaining humanoid blood-life not under the umbrella tribes associated with the Witch or Gwyn, identified by how they did not share in the prosperity of civilization and strength of a Lord Soul, were these guys called Pygmies. This lead him to discover another nature of the Dark, wherein the dregs of it will sink to the lowest depth possible, and form the core components of the world23. Nito, the first of the dead, the Witch of Izalith, and her Daughters of Chaos, Gwyn, the Lord of Sunlight, and his faithful knig… Gwyn notes the insatiable, undying dark power within humanity. In the End of Fire ending, we see what is apparently the begining of an age of dark, and the screen literally fades into total blackness, and I do believe that this isn't merely a transition screen, as the Fire Keeper says "Ashen One, hearest thou my voice still? The prolific Dark Souls modder known as Datehacks gained a lot of attention as of late mainly thanks to his ambitious Age of Fire mod which turns well-known bosses from the original Dark Souls into playable avatars. I claim this to be the same "Twinkle" erupting from the Twinkling Dragon Stones of Dark Souls 3, though I will be de-emphasizing references to Dks 3 in this post. It was during this time that the Lord Souls were found, near the First Flame. If we go by this game there has never been a time that that First Flame had been left to die. Gwyn splits his rightly inherited Lord Soul into pieces, giving the two largest fragments to Seath and to the yet corrupted Four Kings. Press J to jump to the feed. I have a question does age of fire limit abyss or something? They are mostly embellishing and reinforcing data that I may collect in another post and link to stay true to subreddit topic. The ritual fails innumerable times. It as validated as many of the claims I have made, and seems to fit, so why not. Dark Souls will have many familiar features: A dark fantasy universe, tense dungeon crawling, fearsome enemy encounters and unique online interactions. Indeed, it can be construed honestly as helpful, for the seal of fire contains the darkness within them, unable to expand or go out of control in normal circumstance. It's actually in the past of our Firelink Shrine. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/ernnof/truth_of_primordial_serpents_and_dragons_and/. My theory that the magic-generated lightning of the gods being inspired from some natural part of the mushrooms is barely supported by Dark Souls flavor texts, only in the sense that mushrooms can drop golden pine resin. Known only as the Ashen One, this hero's objective and duty is to see to the destruction of the imposing Lords of Cinder to prevent Armageddon. meaning that he knew her when she was still alive. 03 Jan 2019 06:36 . The Moonlight Greatsword is false moonlight, revealed from flavor texts over the years. Because of this, the Tomb becomes a holy part of the Way of the White. A community dedicated to everything about Dark Souls 3. Mix. If you don't talk to the Shrine Handmaid in Firelink until after you've talked to her in Untended Graves, she seems to recognize you, but catch herself. It was when all Lords enflamed their Lord Souls did they gain the strength to challenge the ancient winged deities. card classic compact. He may or may not be called "First of the Dead" because his base skeleton was the first lifeform to die. With his overwhelming power, he manifests remnants of the first flame as the Sun using his Lord Soul. In this era, the world was ruled by the Everlasting Dragons. He arranges with the Way of the White and the gods to create some bells and the Lordvessel, and slumbers in awaiting a "Chosen undead" whose strength is tested in ringing the bells, which wakes up Frampt. We do not see him breathing fire. In writing this post, it came down even to exact phrasing to form an interpretation, such was the density of the opening passage. I believe that it innately does not possess the properties that we have come to regard "soul" in Dark Souls though, namely that it can be transferred, broken down, fuse/build up, or used for a variety of purposes by means of its consumption or transposition by the sophisticated means later used by the gods. I love hearing peoples different interpretations. Each of the pygmies gains some amount of humanity, perhaps more going to those that would become known as pygmy lords in the Ringed City, and thus we have Men. It may just be a loose title. Not talking shit about wise old Gough. But i am kinda too tired to give that all now, Ashen one, the age of dark is the age men, the undead curse would dissapear If the age of fire ends, so No more hollows and hollowing, about the look it might be total darkness, however we never really so enough of the age of dark to say thats true, knowing dark souls however it probably is. Seath was said to be "true undead" in his final state, although I believe he was going to eventually become immovable crystal in a dark parody of the pseudo-mineral nature of his brethern, them being made out of another kind of elemental, earth like material, possibly related to other upgrade materials. I do not regard this "blood-fire" as being a form of soul power, although one can claim that it is and is related to one's true essence, and perhaps that is what is drawn from in the pyromancy the Power Within. The Dark Soul inherits an "undying" part of the Lord Soul spark, or otherwise gains this quality by nature of its unnatural birth. In this Age, I believe that since he was the only being considered "Undying", he essentially became a primeval deity that created tombs. Press J to jump to the feed. Hello, thank you for reading. I believe that, fitting with the idea that the Lord Souls were originally pseudo-eternal sparks that provided a strong but humble warmth to nurture civilization, that above the outer crust of the world there existed the Moon, after the first flame that is. Thus began the age of men, the Age of Dark. Men can contain the darkness within them, unnatural as it all is. No magic, but life goes on like it always has, people are still going to live in societies, and all that (I could be wrong, seeing as how in the DS universe, hollows seem to be the natural state of the beings we see, which means they keep dying and resurrecting, and can't think much). Finding souls let them be individuals, and hollowing reverts people back to that primeval state. I think they are just shattered, their pieces no more alive or dead then they are combined. The world is as stated. Heat and cold, life and death, and of course, light and dark. I've always seen it as basically our age, here in the real world. Would there be any sunlight? What it is exactly is uncertain, but it seems to start in Irithyll with the cleric Aldrich, who experienced visions of the deep sea1. Someone who wont be easily defeated, so an Age of Fire couldnt happen again. Despite the Age of Dark being a ubiquitous concept throughout the Dark Souls series, it is never the "current" state of the world in any of the existing games. However through whatever means they were split, the state of the pair was entirely unnatural, as if splitting a sub-atomic particle into positive and negative constituents, but that analogy does not continue, because they were holy unequal pieces of this Lord Soul. There's a few things that point to this. Did they already live in society, but simply didn't have magic, like I think? I interpret Seath to actually have multiple obsessions in Dark Souls, but only one is confirmed as becoming immortal. I am decently inclined to believe they have ancient origins from their growth throughout, and towards the bottom, of the great hollow. 3840x2160 Preview wallpaper dark souls, sword, armor, look, smoke 3840x2160 Among general decay and waning influence of the gods, Nito's power falters, and some men do not die. For Dark Souls on the Xbox 360, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "The Truth: The Age of Fire and The Age of Dark". Its as if the Lord Soul had an outer skin on its flame that was removed. Okay, so, one of the main aspects of the lore surrounding the Dark Souls universe is that its very "theatrical", in the sense that many important aspects about the story are described in a very eloquent and poethical way, and usually don't go into factual details about some events. The Age of Dark, otherwise known as the Age of Humanity, is an era in the lore of Dark Souls.. Longer, more ridiculous version: Seath is a mutant of the Everlasting Dragons made of flesh, born that way or otherwise mutated from a normal one after the First Flame came into being. This is in reference to how his Lord Soul is said to have been used in large part in "offering to death." The dark is ultimately staved off by primordial fire, which is the nature of the seal. The Witches and Nito do what you see in the cutscene, powered by their Lord Souls. Ingward notes the existence of at least one undead gaining the Lordvessel before, and odds are they eventually met their demise due to not being strong enough. Gwyn as the lord of Sunlight was unrivaled in his Power and the Darkstalker and the Sabled Church of Londor want to create a Lord of Hollows to guide man kind through these Times. Nito quite literally artificially creates death for these beings. ", "Darkwraiths harness the power of the Dark Soul found in each human. From their very birth, they are cursed, for they live symbiotically with the humanity within them. Dark Souls is a spiritual successor to Demon’s, not a sequel. He goes to the kiln of the First Flame, which is a ritualistic site with quasi-physical placement in the universe where he can attempt a kindling of it. Just as the first cutscene describes, the First Flame generates all conceptual elements of the universe that have a compliment: Life/Death, Heat/Cold, Light/Dark etc. The Dark Soul, although paling in comparison to what the Lord Souls and the Light Soul has given the rest of the blood-life, has an undying, heretical existence in the universe. This is represented by their shard of the First Flame burning out, and disappearing from the universe. To Link the Fire and The Dark Lord are the two endings that can be chosen in Dark Souls. Rather than begetting will, it has a will itself. I reference this to be the "Twinkle" referenced in Twinkling Titanite to be strange and of unknown origins. If we accept lightning as being a part of their essence, that would suggest all proto-magic is inspired from nature, as the Witches had surely seen fire before. I would like to emphasize that now, we have these concepts, and particular for the "positive" part of them we have a kind of quantification of intensity. Cheers mate, I saved this for next time I have time to read a book. And the black eyes that shimmer within, I see? Age of Dark seems to be dark, but there's still light here and there to see, but it's dark, and like, that it? Primordial Serpent Kaathe "gifts" an ability of Lifedrain to undead warriors in New Londo. Among the remaining humanoid blood-life not under the umbrella tribes associated with the Witch or Gwyn, identified by how they did not share in the prosperity of civilization and strength of a Lord Soul, were these guys called Pygmies. The dark within humanity can now fester, still and stagnant, leaking analogies of pus, rot, and corruption. There is so much out there, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. The Dark Soul is darkness contained and defined by light, it begins small and weak, but expands unnaturally. The moon coming to represent the remains the first flame after life was created, it was a cool light that illuminated the above world, and it remained strongly in the memory of Seath as an obsession, and perhaps is the source of Midir's memory stated in Old Moonlight. Now this is where I start to make very big claims. The Gods influence dwindles. This will sound nonsense, but I think in some capacity the moon was literally lit on fire by Gwyn to form the sun at the dawn of the age of fire. Key features: • Deep and Dark Universe • Each End is a New Beginning • Gameplay Richness and Possibilities • Sense of Learning, Mastering and Accomplishment • The Way of the Multiplayer (up to 6 … For other uses, see Ending (disambiguation). A land of gray crags, Archtrees and Everlasting Dragons. Edit:It had never occurred to me that Seath's betraying element was to reveal his kin's lack of lightning defense in their exterior. The humanity sprite within each of the first men is alive, in the same description I have used for the Dark Soul. However! The Age of Grey was also "flat", every dragon was identical to every other dragon, every Archtree was the same, and all the hollows as well. And you can rule it. The inner darkness remains sealed by fire. But I believe that the twinkling energy ultimately gave the everlasting dragons their undying nature, and Seath found this Primordial Crystal thing, which had the ability to crystallize soul-energy or perhaps that crystals are indeed simplistic solidified souls and that the Primordial Crystal allowed some form of them to be indestructable, like an auxilliary energy source to "power" durability. But Lord Gwyn trembled at the Dark. Dark Souls Remastered includes the main game plus the Artorias of the Abyss DLC. Lets call these pieces the Light Soul and the Dark Soul. Found her, did we? Even if their blood and natural power of body runs thin, their humanity keeps them "alive." I think the whole reason Seath was researching how Crystal was so he could create scales for himself, the source of eternal life for dragons. Instead, the Flame rekindles itself by burning the part of Gwyn's soul analagous to the white tinge of humanity, this leaves him in a state that looks similar to an undead hollow. Fantastic job! I really love that, and I love how dense and well crafted this world is, but it also means that we don't have a lot of information about some stuff. Darkness, which otherwise would just be the lack of flame and soul-power, can now expand and consume. So without that, humans could live as humans. Would all humans just be hollow mindless zombies for a few centuries or would even the hollows die? I find that it helps iron out some of the supposed inconsistencies and head-scratchers of the game, like how the First of the Dead can move, what dead even means in a world filled with undead, how darkness can be representative of life etc. They are possibly in some way eternal, remnants of the first flame that dwindle in a timeline akin to entropic death of the universe. >inbefore duh it's dark hurr hurr So far all Dark Souls games have taken place on the edge of transition to the age of fire to the age of dark. The art in crafting a unified theory and explanation of the unknown is in how encompassing, detailed, and pleasing it feels to the lost loreseeker. Add a post. I may adapt or refine it come the right time. It was essentially condensed energy units that could be manipulated, but I claim that they were initially much weaker than what is seen in the feats of the great war (they were just the little flames seen in Nito and the Witch's grasp) They were also uniquely eternal and had the potential to grow great in circumstances I will elaborate upon shortly. The world is essentially inanimate and stone. I love this series particularly because of the lore. It grows in power with time, in search of what it has lost. There are no beings of flesh. His existence before the First Flame I cannot assert due to this. This has the effect of them losing their "humanity", over multiple reanimations they will lose their sanity and memory. The Light Soul was the unbridled soul power of the Lord Soul now uncontained. Later flavor texts suggest that somehow she began with control over it, but this control deteriorated, spawning the more chaotic and monsterous demons as her own mutated being becomes a seedbed. Gwyn attempts to use himself as kindling for the First Flame to extend his "Sun" and his reign, interconnected elements that overall asserts the placement of the Gods as being the most powerful race of the world. Furthermore, the weakness was not overtly necessary to exploit, as Nito's miasma is seen decaying and destroying an Ancient Dragon as well. Heat and cold, life and death, and of course, light and dark. It can be hard to envision the Age of Dark because we have no real reference point for it, but it certainly would be dark in a literal sense: the sun and the First Flame are linked, and when the First Flame goes out so does the sun. Anton Kokarev continues to conjure a dark and haunting world reminiscent of the game without simply copying the … card. As how these obsessions relate I cannot say, and much of these ideas I have ultimately been inspired from details given in other Souls games, making it a complicated theory to present in these bounds. 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